Episode 38: Overcoming Fear and Taking Action with Rachel Stewart

Hello, podcast universe! Welcome to Episode 38 of the 100% Awesome Podcast. I'm April Price and I have such a special treat for you on the podcast today. Last week, as you know, we talked about belief and how to believe new things and how important that is as we go to achieve something in our lives, or get a different result in our lives. We have to believe something new. But after that, we have to take action from that new belief.

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And so today I wanted to talk about taking action, how we take action from those beliefs, and especially, about taking action even when our belief isn't quite 100% or even when we're working on our belief, but we still have some fear and self-doubt. And so, I thought there's like no one better to talk about taking action and creating the results you want while you are feeling fear then my sister.

So last year, my sister, Rachel Stewart, wrote a book called Unqualified Success: Bridging the Gap Between Where You Are Now and Where You Want to Be to Achieve Massive Success. And in this book, she talks about this very thing, right? So, I invited her to be on the podcast today to talk about it, to talk about how we bridge that gap between our belief and the results we really want to see.

So just to give you a little background, Rachel is actually my younger sister, but in every way, she has been an example to me of what is possible. She just doesn't let fear or self-doubt, or sometimes like even what I think is logic, get in the way of her dreams. She just creates what she wants. She's a leader in her industry. She's a leader in her company. She started a software company, like on the side, just because she saw a need and she thought like, "I'm surely the one to fix this," right? Even though she had no experience in creating software company. Like she is just so brave. She creates what she wants in her life because she is brave. And so, I'm just trying to follow along and get a little bit braver by watching her.

And I thought all of you would benefit from the things that she knows. And so, I hope you enjoy this interview today and you get some really helpful ideas that will allow you to take action in your life and step out of just believing and get into the doing.

And so, I'm going to link her book Unqualified Success, which is so good and has so many really amazing examples in it. I'm going to put that in the show notes so that you can dive deeper and put these principles into place in your life. So alright, here we go:

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April: So, thank you so much for coming on the podcast today. I wanted to have you on here forever but just never got my ducks in a row so.

Rachel: I'm so glad to be here. This has been the number one podcast and want to be on in 2020. If only I had a connection.

April: Exactly. Well I'm just happy to help you reach your goals. There you go. You're done for the year. Okay, so we're going to talk a little bit about the book, and I think the stuff that you have written about in your book are like so applicable to so many of my listeners. And so, when you start the book you talk a little bit about belief and how important our belief is in creating whatever achievement it is we want in our lives. And I was thinking about this and I was thinking about how you are one of the people that have created so much belief in me.

Like a couple of years ago (my audience doesn't know this), but Rachel came to me and she's like, “Hey I want you to do this marketing project for me.” And I was really like, “There is no way that I can create this marketing campaign.” But your belief in me I was like, “Well, she thinks I can. So I guess I can. You know, what's the worst that could happen? I'll give it a try.”

And that kind of like got the ball rolling for me. Like it was one of those first moments where I thought that maybe like something else was possible for me, it started the domino; like, “Well if I could do that, then maybe I could do this. And if I can do that, maybe I can do this.” It was sort of like the first bread crumb. And so, I've always been so grateful for your belief in me. And I know that it's like a critical element for all of us. So, I want to just have you start and talk about like why belief is so important in our ability to achieve what we want in our lives.

[04:58]
Rachel: Absolutely. So, I'll start with the example that you gave, which was kind of your story. And your audience may not know this but we're a family of published authors. So, our dad is an author. Our brother is an author. I am now a published author. But the real talent in the family is April. And she has so much hidden talent, like it's not even hidden, and everybody else in the world around her knows it. But when I was launching my software company, I really wanted everything about it to just be incredible. And I knew that if anybody could get like our vision and our story out there it would be April. And so, even though she had no marketing experience—you know she doesn't have you know some of the stuff that you would naturally see on a resume, I knew that she would be perfect for it. So, I begged her to do it and she graciously said, “Oh, okay, I'll give it a shot.”

Seriously one of the taglines from it that she came up with, I mean it just so epitomizes both the industry and what we're trying to achieve. Anyway, but she doesn't see that about herself. And I think that's so true of all of us. We have these things that we really could be doing in life, if we could just get out of our own way, we would be accomplishing them. And so, starting with belief, you know one of it is mindset and coaching, but also maybe surrounding yourself with people who can kind of give you a bigger sense of who you are.

And I know that you know it's often said you're the average of the five people that you surround yourself with. So if you're surround yourself with people who have a great vision of you (and I'm not saying people that won't be honest or truthful with you and just tell you you're great even in areas that may not be great to spend your time at) but they could give you a realistic view of who you are. And that's a great place. But obviously all of that's going to start with the work that you're doing with working with mindset and starting from a place. And, yeah, it was really awesome what you were able to accomplish.

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April: And I really just want to reiterate it all starts with like just that little like little beam of belief, like maybe I could do this, and I think that is where it starts for all of us. So, okay, so once we have kind of like decided to believe in ourselves, then we have to act, right? Like we have to for each of us. I think there's kind of a gap between “Okay, I believe that maybe this is possible,” and then the result we're looking for, right? Like there's this huge gap. And this is where you kind of spend the majority of the time in your book talking about how we overcome that gap between our beliefs and our accomplishments. And, for me, I find that like my own thoughts become the biggest obstacle to taking action in my life, like starting to like turn that belief into a result.

And, in fact I was talking to a friend the other day. And she was like, “You know what's the hardest part about your business?” And I was like, “Well, the hardest part for me is just like being vulnerable and putting myself out there and like being like open to criticism and stuff.” And she's like, “Oh do a lot of people criticize you?” And I was like, “No.” No. It’s like it’s really just my own brain criticizing me. Like how do we overcome that? Like the sort of critical part of our brain so that we can act in the way we need to create action in our lives.

[08:39]
Rachel: Oh, so that's so funny. So, there's a lot of different things. So, if you're starting with mindset, one of the things that we talk about is bridging and I know you talk about that a lot with your coaching. Changing your mindset and what you believe about yourself can be challenging especially when you can find a lot of evidence to support whatever it is that your belief is. So, you know what one of those examples of that is if you need to get go out and promote your business and you need to, you know, start having the meetings and the relationships and everything that's really going to sell and drive your company. But you know, maybe your mindset is: “I'm not good at that first interaction. I'm not good at breaking down that barrier. I'm not good at you know whatever that is,” and that's your mindset. And then you can give a whole laundry list of all the times that you approached somebody, and you fell flat or whatever. So, the problem is that you're trying to believe something that you really fundamentally think is not true, and then you're always going to be running into, “Well I'm just lying to myself and you know how is it helpful to be delusional about my ability,” right?

So, what you need to start doing is just that next step. So maybe it's instead of going from “I'm lousy at those first introductions” to “I'm amazing at creating connection immediately,” maybe the first thing is “I can learn. I could observe somebody that is really good at making connections,” and then you can get to a place where you can totally 100% believe, that you get behind it 100%. “I can observe somebody who does this.” And then after you spend some time doing that—"I can learn whatever techniques they're doing” and you can get behind that thought and then you know, “I'm okay at this,” and you get a place where you're okay and until you're at a place where you are believing.

And so just getting your mind to a place where you can act, where you can take the next step. You might not be able to jump all the way from A to Z immediately in one action; you might have to take these many steps in between. But then I'm always like that we're spending our time perpetually in planning mode or whatever mode or thinking mode or whatever, so if you just got busy doing the work, there's so much that we would learn in that process. And there's so much that we would surprise ourselves that we already know or that we're already capable of.

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April: Yeah, it's funny that you say that. I was working on a webinar this week. As part of our coach training, we have like assignments afterwards to build our business and one of the was to create a webinar and I'm like right up against the deadline. I'd like been putting it off and putting it off, like “I can't do this, I can't do this, I can't do this.” So finally, it was like, “Well, you have to.” And so that deadline kind of made me take action. And after I finished. I was like, “Huh.”

Rachel: Yeah, it usually goes surprisingly well. Like, “Oh why did I put that off?” So, about a year ago I was, I had been going to one of a big conference that Verne Harnish puts on. It's called the Scaling Up Conference.” And okay, in the business world it's pretty big deal, I feel. Like he usually garnishes a lot of really powerful speakers and he usually has this really great line up and everything. And one of the days that I was sitting in the audience, I said, “You know what? Someday I want to be speaking on this stage.” And I'm like, “What am I going to have to do to be able to speak on the stage?”

Well he usually only has authors, so I probably need to publish a book. And so, I put this deadline that I wanted to write a book. Anyway, I gave myself about six months and I put together a team that would be able to accomplish this goal. And you know it was my very first book and it was gonna be difficult. And then I just started. Once I knew that the book was going to come out, I just started pitching to this organization. And I'm like, “Okay if I'm going to get on that stage, I probably should have been on another stage, I should probably have some speaking qualifications. So, then I started asking like, “Okay, where could I speak? What different organizations could I speak?”

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And a lot of the things that I'm involved in are always looking for speakers. So, I spoke there if I could. Anyway, so I started building up a report and I hired myself you know a coach to help me with my public speaking. And, anyway, long story short, in about a year's time I was able to accomplish this. I'm actually, in May, going to be at this Scaling Up Conference, which I have no qualifications to do this. And if I would just start with my belief system with like all of the impossibilities, with all of the people that I've seen up on stage and how do I compare to them and what value would I be compared to them, I would never get going on anything.

But I think like all of us have a unique ability and I think mine is that I’m probably not realistic in what my abilities are. I look at things and I'm like, “Oh if they can do it, I can do it.” Or, you know? Yeah. And it's awesome. So, I think just getting in there and just taking action and then I'm like if it doesn't work so be it, you know? If a bunch of these speaking engagements—and don't get me wrong, there's so much fear that I've had to overcome in the interim you know? Like the first time that I was speaking in front of Genius Network, which is a is a group of like really successful entrepreneurs. And you know getting up there (and was only a 10-minute speech that I was giving) I was terrified. But I got really good feedback from it and it was one of those things that was a catalyst to other speaking opportunities.

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April: Yeah. I just think the key there was like you just take action, right? And like what's the worst that could happen? And also, the fear comes up. So, let's just talk about that for a second. I think that's a really good segway into talking about fear and. So like, I think, what if we boil everything down to why we're not taking action, I think at the bottom of all of it is always there always this like underlying fear that either we're going to fail, either really get criticized, or that we'll figure out finally that, yeah, we have no business doing the thing we think we want to do. Right?

So like I was talking to Savannah last night and she she's working on her art portfolio, so she can apply for her program. And anyway, she's just like, “Every time I think I'm going to do it it's like I just feel so much dread, like I just feel so much dread.” Anyway, as we were talking about I'm like, “Really, it's fear. Right? Like it's fear that I'm not going to be good enough to do it. And so I just stall and don't take action.” And so how did you overcome your fears? Like what do you say to any of my listeners who are like just like scared, scared to act?

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Rachel: Yeah, so you know there was one quote a couple of years ago that I came across that resonated with me so deeply and that is: “Fear is a liar.” And I just started putting that like everywhere. And so when I would come up to those feelings you can always just kind of go back to. You know most of what that place is coming from is not divine. It's not there to boost you to lift you. It's there to hold you back. It's there to prevent you from taking action. And I like the idea that in all of us there's that innate feeling of discontent. That we want something more, that where we are now isn't what we really want. And there's that gap and you know Michelle Craig calls it that “divine discontent.”

And she says that it's 1) God given and 2) it is there so that we act. And so, we all want something more. We all want something that's bigger. And that we're not ready for yet. But the fear that comes with that. It is what is going to prevent us from becoming who we really want to be and so if you can only say, “Okay, where is the source of this fear?” It's not coming from a place of divinity. It's not coming from somewhere that's going to elevate me or make me the person I really want to be. It's there to prevent me from taking action. When really this discontent and this longing for something more, is divinely given and that's what I need to key into, that's where I need to hone into— this desire to be more. And so, if you can go, “Fear is a liar. But it's also part of the journey.”

And you think that you're the only one, maybe in a room, that feels unqualified, fearful that you're like, you know, like it's a facade or something that you're putting yourself out there. But what I run into more and more is that everybody is dealing with some version of that, no matter how much you've achieved no how no matter how successful you are. You know, there's a lot of actors or actresses or comedians or anything that say that they're terrified and they're throwing up before a big performance. Like that you get even with all the experience they have. So, if you can kind of just to hone in 1) you're not alone, that this is a universal feeling and 2) it's there to keep you from acting. And so how much power are you going to give it? How much credence are you going to listen to it?

[18:23]
And then dealing with the idea that failure isn't personal. Failure isn't a statement about your worth, about your like your talent. All it is is a statement that that one moment didn’t work. So how are you going to shift it? How are you going to take that? What do you need to learn from that? That's going to shift the next step that you take, your next move. And that's easier said than done. A lot of times we we'd like to take that failure and try to retain some facts from it. And it means nothing about, you know, our abilities our worth, or our right to be in a room or whatever.

April: Oh my gosh, that was so good. And I loved what you said about “Fear is a liar” but it's also part of it. Like we don't have to like erase it completely and that it's not going away. And that kind of like when we engage in like trying to remove it completely, we spend our time in that like ineffective pursuit, rather than just doing the dream, just doing the work, just going after the goal, right?

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Rachel: I mean you look at it like okay, when you work out, you know. You know that the burn is going to be there, if you're doing it right. So, when the burn comes, it's not something to freak out about or fear.

April: Yeah you know, you don’t think let me just work through all this before I keep working out.

Rachel: Yeah. Right now, you're like, “It's going to be there.” It's part of the process. And actually, its presence shows you that you're doing something really great. Yeah. So, you know just like when that burn happens, you're pushing your muscles, that's really what you spent all of the other time at the gym doing—is getting to the place where you feel that. For the rest of your life what you’re doing is getting to a place where you can feel this fear, because that means you're stretching for the next thing. It means that there's something there that's better for you.

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April: So good. Okay, so I wanted to talk, I know we've talked before about like even being scared about things that you've done before and that you think you're good at, you think you've mastered. So maybe just talk a little bit about that, about your experience the last fall.

[20:33]
Rachel: So, April talked about this on the podcast before, but our younger brother David, decided that he was going to run a hundred miler. And about the time that he was planning to do this, he reached out to me and said, “Hey, I would love for you to be my Pacer.” And I initially had told him no. So, a little bit of background. I grew up running. I ran in high school cross-country and track and then I ran in college and then post college I've done ultra-marathons and regular marathons. So, I have done quite a…

April: By the way, she was just trying to keep up with me

Rachel: So, I had all of this experience, right, with running. And the thing you need to know about a 100-miler is that Pacers only usually come in, and you can't have the pacer during the first couple laps or loops or laps or depending on how the races is set up. But in this particular race he was doing about 20-mile loops, and it was kind of washing-machine style. He would go one direction for 20 miles and then turn around and go the other direction. And so, he couldn't have a pacer until either he got to his fourth lap (he had to do five of these 20 miles) either his fourth lap or until it got dark. And so, he had kind of timed things out and he said, “Oh you know, what I really think I only need a pacer for the last 20-mile loop. Will you run with me?”

[21:59]
So, there's a couple of things that you should know is that, 1) So you're going to be at the very last. So, this person has already run 80 miles. So, there's a couple of things that could happen. There's so much unknown that you don't know. And you have no idea the idea what the condition of the runner will be at that point. So, your job is to get them across the finish line not knowing if they going to be delusional at that point. Are they going to be able to keep down any of the fuel and fluids they're absorbing? You know they could just be puking. They could be in a place where they have blisters or other injuries. Or they could be in a really good place.

Anyway, so when we had kind of talked about this, I had initially told him “No.” I had too much going on. I was launching a book. I was launching our software company. Running another company. And by the way you know, I’m married with four kids. So, I was just like, “This isn't going to happen.”

But the more I got thinking about it I was like, “This is going to be one of those experiences that I really don't want to miss out on. Like that's going to be, you know, one of those things that you think back at eight years old, “What did I do with my life?” So, I didn't want to miss out on it. But I also didn't know how I was gonna make it happen.

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So, and, you know, I had all of these really big stretch things on my plate like where that was going to require me to do a lot of stretching and growing and evolving and all of that kind of stuff. And so, but I was like, “You know, I've run a lot. All it is is this is going to be a matter of getting out there. And it will actually probably be pretty good for me because, you know, it will give me some downtime. I'll be able to think about things.”

Anyway, so we got into the year a little bit and it just wasn't going well. I wasn't getting out on the trail. The only thing that I thought about when I thought about this race was that I didn't want to do it and that I was going to let my brother down. Yeah. And the closer that it got, the reality of these feelings was “I'm letting him down. And like, just get out there. What’s wrong with me? Just get out there and run. Like this isn’t hard. You already know how to do this. You've already mastered it. Out of all of the things that you're doing, you should have this thing down.”

Anyway, so I did it a lot of coaching sessions with April and I'm like, “I just don't even know how to even get myself in a place where I can do this. Like I think I need to tell him ‘no.’” And all of this kind of stuff. And she really helped me kind of put my like my decision in perspective and really helped me decide what I wanted to do, and what I really wanted to do by looking at what my future would be and all of that kind of thing.

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But what I found so interesting was that that really shook me. Out of all of the things that I was doing. It made me feel like I was failing at everything, like I was lying. Like I had gotten to this place that was all just made up. Like I'd just written a book about grit and persistence and showing up and you know like I couldn't even have any grit or persistence to get out and run miles. And so that was something that was that I learned that I think might be helpful to you to your audience is that a lot of times when you're stretching ourselves in so many different areas and the things that we already feel like we've mastered start suffering totally. And then it brings all of this self-doubt about everything we've ever done, that it was maybe just luck or so yeah or your worth as a person. It's just like falling apart. Like what's wrong with my life? When really, it's just a focused issue and a capacity issue. Like you can only master so many things at one time.

And I think like we all have so many so many hours in the day and like doing those things like, so for me it was 20 miles, I mean David had to do a hundred. So that was a whole other thing. Like, “Here carry this weight too, you pathetic individual. You're only have to do 20, he has to do 100.” But he had like carved out his life around this race, you know? So being able to see what you're carving your life around and maybe having some sort of balance in that.

But I would not take that back. I wouldn't regret that at all. I mean it was one of the most incredible experiences of my life in the race with my brother. Like being able to participate in that huge victory for him. It was you know out in the desert. There are just two of us. It was really amazing.

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April: Yeah. And it was amazing to me to be there. I was the cheerleader, but it was amazing for me to be there and see it. And I think that's it for all of us: If we can overcome our fear, there are these incredible experiences available to each of us.

Rachel: And so, and I think that's the other thing. It's like I was facing fear the whole time. Like I could have easily taken the easy road out and just gone, “I can't do it.” Like not have to deal with all of the shame and all of that—whatever kept coming up—you know, over and over again. But you helped me to like push through that and really kind of stay in the middle of that discomfort. Long enough where I could actually get to a place where I was getting the miles in. And, you know, be there and show up for my brother.

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April: Yeah. Love it. Okay, so I want to talk for a minute about like doing the work, right? Facing the discomfort. And I was listening to this podcast on a totally different subject the other day and they were talking about how the brain underestimates the pleasure that we get from doing whatever activity we're going to do. So, in this case they're talking about exercise and how these studies show that the brain always underestimates how much pleasure we're going to get from working out. Right? It just always is like, “It's gonna be hard. It's gonna be exhausting. It's gonna make me tired. It's going to make me sore.”
And then what happens is then they test the people afterwards and they're like not tired, they're not sore, or they're not exhausted. They're like energized. They're excited. Right? Like our brain underestimates the pleasure.

I think that's just because the survival instinct of the brain that doesn't like to spend energy, doesn't like to be uncomfortable. So how do we kind of talk ourselves into the work or commit to the work? Do you have any suggestions or thoughts or things about just doing the work?

[29:12]
Rachel: Yeah. So, I think definitely having a vision of where you're going and what you're going to do, like why you want to be doing whatever it is you're doing definitely helps me and helps motivate me. If I can get to the end goal and then the middle part doesn't necessarily, isn't so painful. But I think just a big part of it is you just being in control and just showing up just doing it regardless of whatever it is that your brain is telling you. And I know that that's easier said than done. But you're making a different commitment. Like you're making a commitment to your goals and your dreams.

And, you know, if it was easy everybody would do it, right? And what brings that joy is like the struggle. Right? Like I mean it's easy to sit on the couch and watch Netflix, right? But at the end of the day, how much joy did that bring? It's the struggle of doing what's maybe uncomfortable, what pushes you, what stretches you that actually has the associated reward of joy. And so, I think that that's like when you hit two that hit that place of struggle where it's hard to do something then you dive into it, “Oh that's because that's why I really want to do it. It's because it’s hard and it's going to bring more joy at the end. I

[30:32]
April: I like that. So, you actually think like this is why I'm in it. Yeah, I love it. Okay, so I want to kind of end today by talking about why. Why do it? Right? Like why go after the dream? Why? Like why have goals and then try things in our lives? And I was thinking about this because we went to Costa Rica for Christmas and we went to church in Costa Rica. And I don't know very much Spanish anymore. I knew enough to understand a little bit of what they were saying. And so, the speakers were getting up there. This is like the last Sunday of the year, and they get up and they were speaking and they're talking about “metas,” right? Goals. And it’s like, “Oh my gosh. Right? Like even in Costa Rica the sacrament meeting talks are about goals, right?

And it was because like it doesn't matter where you are in the world, right, it's a universal human need. This need to like ask more of ourselves. So you know you kind of spoke to this earlier, but I do believe that like that we all have this desire for something else, for something greater for each of us. I want to just talk to about like why should we go after our goals, why should we give our dreams a chance and do the work that's required?

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Rachel: Yeah, I think for all of us I think, there's nothing more painful than regret. And I think that if we look back our life, you're gonna have regrets either way. You're gonna have the regret of either—like so a lot of people are like, “Oh I don't want to try this because what if I fail or what doesn't work out or what if I'm not as good as maybe I hope I am or I think I am,” you know? Or what if the world says something different? And so you could live with rejection and you could have some regrets that go along with that.

Or you can live with the regret of never having tried something and never having lived up your, you know, your potential. I think that that's a much more painful regret because it's like really you don't have any answers. There's no closure in that. Having that unknown about what could have been or what would have happened or having answers to where a life could go and take us, I think is a big big driving factor for me.

And then obviously I also think that there's a higher power that wants more for us that has bigger plans for us, has bigger goals for us. But we have to step into them. We have to kind of like take that first step of faith into the unknown and into the dark and go for it and reach for it.

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April: Yeah. And I think that this is like the unique place to do that, right? In an Earth life experience. Because you do have all the fear. You have all the natural instincts of your brain to stay small and to stay in the cave and to stay scared. And so like the whole point is we're trying to overcome that part. We're trying to overcome the humanness and reach for the divine that is in us—like do the things that allows than our spirit to grow and master that like human part of us.

Rachel: And I mean like, that I mean, that's what the whole earth life experience is about is the test. Like we get to try and then we get to fail, and we get to try again, and we fail, and repent and try again, you know? And that's kind of like the stepping blocks to reach our goals too. It is you get out there and you're going to learn so much along the way about what works what doesn't work, and then you get can make changes and adjust and then you're like extending your capacity, extending your capacity. You know? And it's so much fun.

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April: Yeah, yeah. I know, I know. And that's one of the things that I've learned most from you is like you actually really enjoy it. Like I'm trying to get better at it and to really like find the joy in it. But when I watch you, I see how much joy you get even when it doesn't work. You're like, “Okay, let's try something else.” And I think that's really like an important thing to keep in mind: that it can be fun. It can be exciting. It can be really joyful.

Rachel: Yeah. Well I think that goes back to mindset. I could also be painful and heartbreaking and all this kind of stuff. But if you can go back to just having the experience of it, and I think any of us who have reached a major goal or a major milestone, like it's made all that much sweeter by like not being able to see the end and not necessarily knowing how it's all going to work out.

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April: Okay, you're so awesome. I love you. I'm glad you're my sister. Thank you so much.

Okay, that’s what I have for you today. As I was listening to this again and editing it for you, I was reminded of something that Rachel like wrote about in her book. And she compared fear and our goals to that game that we used to play when we went on road trips. Right? And you'd like go around the car and say, “I'm going on a trip and I'm taking apples,” right? And then the next person would say, “I'm going on a trip and I'm taking apples and boots,” right? And then you've got to go through the alphabet. Right? The persons would say, “I'm going on a trip and I'm taking apples and boots and candy,” and on and on it went, until you couldn't remember one of the things on the list and then you were out.

And so anyway she writes in her book about thinking about your goals in the same way. Right? Like, “I'm going on a trip to lose weight and I'm taking fear.” “I'm going on a trip to audition for this part and I'm taking fear.” “I'm going on a trip to start a business and I'm taking fear.” “I'm going to hike the Grand Canyon and get out of debt and write a book and I'm taking fear.” Whatever it is, could you just take fear along? Think about what it is you want to create in your life and what you might be able to create if you were willing to take fear with you.

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I just loved what she said, right? Fear is a liar. But fear is also part of it. And very best part is you don't have to make it go away in order to go after your dreams. And that, my friends, is 100% awesome. I love you for listening and I'll see you next week!